So,
Anyone who bought a PC at Media-markt or something like that,
he has an OEM CD (Recoyery CD),
of can't replace his mainboard or hard drive, without buying a new license to activate.
You prefer a Retail version (With support from MS) or
SB version (Without support from MS) buys,
he can do his Replace hardware as often as you like,
Mainboard etc. max. 10 times, then he has to Call MS,
and Activate the license code again, you have to send the proof of purchase by email.
That means don't get OEM versions, rather, ne retail or self-service
@ * Blue *
You were right, but with OEM versions it should
also go, I think, but I'm only 3% of 100%
sure, because it worked with my OEM-XP. Have
that is from my old one down and on the new one
it.
gruß
Daniel M.
Now there is clarity when replacing the mainboard for Vista OEM owners (my opinion)
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Hello DanielM,
So for me there is no clarity about your contribution above. It would have been nice if you could also substantiate your statements, for example with the individual statements from Microsoft or with jurisprudence on the subject.
This can be put under the topic.We also had this nice contribution to OEM / XP:
QuoteIn most cases (approx. 99 percent) an OEM is one full version, only the manual, a box and MS support are missing.
A recovery is a legally unprotected version. Recovery is therefore a term that can be freely used. This version usually contains a hardware link and varies from manufacturer to manufacturer. Some recovery versions are even OEMs (10 percent approx.), Others can only be operated with a PC from manufacturer X and certain hardware! Example: An XP Prof. Recovery is running z. B. only on notebook X from manufacturer Y. If you change the hardware too often, the OS can no longer be installed. If you try to insert the CD into the PC or another notebook, installation is definitely impossible.
An OEM is therefore linked to hardware in over 90 percent of cases, the license sticker is then on the computer, the OEM CD itself does not have a sticker.
An OEM is an economy version created by Microsoft to persuade the dealer and the customer to use an MS product.
The obligation that the dealer sold the OEM exclusively with the hardware was overturned by the Federal Court of Justice as early as 2000. The BGH was of the opinion that it is only recommended to the retailer, so Microsoft could not enforce a legal obligation.
The dealer who sells an OEM could theoretically violate an existing contract with a wholesaler or with MS, but the customer is fine, he doesn't care, because the sale of OEMs is legally possible. It is important that you receive the product key with the OEM!
If the customer buys a full-fledged OEM as a single product WITHOUT a hardware connection, he can also install the version on 10 PCs in a row (the 9 before that he just has to delete ...)What is important in my eyes is one has to say that clearly herethat you read through the terms of use of your Vista version. There is no WischiWaschi, but the regulations for the respective version, what can I do with it and what not.
It is not enough just to answer the question: Do you agree, have you read ... etc. yes to click but, you have to read the regulations once!
Every user / user must confirm these terms of use, even when purchasing a new system.
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gruß
Paule man -
So and here an interesting article from Winfuture on the subject: Vista OEM. Please consider, also Winfuture, this message does not suck itself out of the fingers, but refers to statements from Microsoft:
WinFuture.de - Vista: OEM licenses tied more closely to hardwareIn the next article it is once again nicely listed when, after a hardware change, the activation procedure has to be carried out or when you have to pick up the phone:
WinFuture.de - Vista: Tolerance of activation when replacing hardware
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While OEM versions of Windows XP were previously intended to be operated with a specific computer, the respective license under Windows Vista will actually only be valid with the system configuration specified by the manufacturer of the computer. Activation now takes place at an even lower firmware level, so that only the hardware installed by the OEM can be used.
I said nothing else on this subject !!
Quote from Paulemann's second link !!
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@paulemann,
With OEM versions, if you change the mainboard,
you have to purchase a new license code.
At a Retail version (With support from MS) or
SB version (without support from MS) you just have to activate it after changing the board,
that works 10 times, then you have to call MS and unlock the code again, then you can reactivate it.
Quoteby * Blue *
A computer on which a retail version of Vista is installed can change its hardware as often as required.
There is no need to buy a new license here.
A certain number of activations only means that the support hotline results in a release.
The general hardware change is calculated according to a point system.
The activation system "remembers" every hardware change, with each component being assigned different points.
After reaching 25 points, a new activation is due.
This applies to both the retail version and the extremely popular System Builder variants, which are actually only intended for PC manufacturers.
Now the OEM version comes into play.
It is not allowed to change the mainboard here.
Other components are again subject to the point system.
Anyone who nevertheless changes the main borad has to buy a new license for better or worse.
Since Microsoft has no way of determining whether the customer has installed an OEM version of Vista when calling for support, further activation is permitted even if the mainboard is replaced.
However, you should think twice about getting a retail or OEM version so as not to violate license agreements when replacing hardware.
There is still one exception: If you exchange the mainboard for the same model, no new license is required.
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@Daniel
Which brings us back to the beginning.
I tried to make that clear to you.
But still nice to see how you get involved!
.... and please note my Sig !! .....
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Which brings us back to the beginning
Yes, but if you buy Vista, you do
don't buy an OEM version,
then a SB, which is already there, for example.
Home Premium € 102.99 at Mindfactory Computer Online Shop
You only get OEM if you have a PC at Aldi,
Media Markt or something like that.
I'll get the Home Premium 32Bit SB,
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So
I asked about it in a very good PC.
The questions:Quote
1: Hello, I wanted to ask if they
"Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit SB (DE) 1er Pack" is an SB (System Builde) version?
Because, at the top it says SB and at the bottom it says, license prices: OEM.
Is this now a system build version or OEM?
2: So this is a system builder version,
because with OEM's you can't change the mainboard without buying a new license code.
This works with self-service versions.
3: and why is it then, at license price: OEM?
And after installation and activation, the DVD or the operating system is
then tied to the hardware?
or can I still make massive hardware changes include:
Maindboard and hard drive. ??The answers:
by Mindfactory
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1: Dear sir
OEM or system builder is practically the same. this is a
System builder version. This means that you do not have free telephone support from
Microsoft.
2: Dear sir
yes, a system builder is practically the same as a normal Microsoft box
(Retail). They just don't have free phone support from Microsoft and
no manual. You have to (with certain components change themselves again
can be activated at Microsoft, but you don't need to buy anything)
3: Dear sir
System builder and OEM describe one and the same product.
When you have installed and activated the version, you will have to reactivate the product in the event of massive hardware changes.gruß
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Dear sir
the difference between OEM / system builder and "normal" version
the following two points:
- System builders / OEM versions have no support from Microsoft
- System builder / OEM versions only have data carrier, CD-Key as well
Mini manual, nothing more.
So when activating / updates / etc are between system builder / OEM version
and "normal" version no differences found.
All versions must be activated as soon as the computer ID changes, this
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Hello Daniel M.
your problem has nothing to do with the OEM version of MS.
Individual PC manufacturers provide a special CD and test the mainboard serial number during installation. Shouldn't that fit
greetings PitCH -
Hello pitch,
I don't have the Vista cd,
I continued the topic that from * Blue *
has started. https://www.win-tipps-tweaks.de/forum/news/146…-vista-oem.html
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Daniel M. -
Sorry
First I pushed and then read everything
When I have read all of this I have to say, BILI has a BANG, it can't be that if I want to keep my hardware up to date, I have to buy a new license every few months
VI $ TA
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Sorry
First I pushed and then read everything
When I have read all of this I have to say BILI has a BANG, it can't be that if I want to keep my hardware up to date, I have to buy a new license every few months
VI $ TA
Is that so ?????
What do you mean by that?
So left 8und9 from me
gruß
Daniel M.
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"Clarity" is in the title here? That looks more like utter confusion to me.
Perhaps reading this article will help:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/ne…0230ceddb72&p=1Quote[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica] A. After an OEM software license has been installed on a PC, the license may not be installed on or transferred to another PC. However, the entire PC may be transferred to another end user along with the software license rights.[/FONT]
Definitely, right?
And yes, Bill definitely has a bang on this point. But the success proves him right. I don't understand how you, as a customer, can have something turned on ...
Regards
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I summarize again
at SB (also called OEM),
you don't have to buy a new license after a massive hardware change, as * Blue * said,
You just have to activate again or you have to have the license reactivated.
But you don't need a new one Buy LICENSE !!
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Daniel M. -
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But you don't need a new one Buy LICENSE !!
No, from have can be out of the question. From then on you can also use Linux
According to the current information, the Redmond-based company will in any case refuse to activate OEM Vista if you have made significant changes to your hardware twice. Because they see it as a quasi-new PC.Allerdings: "Since Microsoft has no way of determining whether the customer has installed an OEM version of Vista when calling for support, further activation is permitted even if the mainboard is replaced."
You can find this at Winfuture, for example. However, it is not legal.
Conclusion: Only a retail Vista is a usable Vista.
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Some things really hurt ...
QuoteWhat is important in my eyes is one has to say that clearly herethat you read through the terms of use of your Vista version. There is no WischiWaschi, but the regulations for the respective version, what can I do with it and what not.
It is not enough just to answer the question: Do you agree, have you read ... etc. yes to click but, you have to read the regulations once!
Every user / user must confirm these terms of use, even when purchasing a new system.I wrote that at the beginning. It is just not understood .....
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If you change the HDD or board,
you can still activate it without purchasing a new code. And it doesn't matter whether you have an OEM (SB) or retail, you can just swap the board or Hdd or both together without buying a new license.Quote
System builder and OEM describe one and the same product.If you have installed and activated the version, you have to go to massive
Hardware changes reactivate the product.Quoteyes, a system builder is practically the same as a normal Microsoft box
(Retail). They just don't have free phone support from Microsoft and
no manual. You have to (with certain components change themselves again
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Hi first,
if you read the link from Funkenzupfer on the microsoft page more closely (knowledge of English is required) you come back to the old topic: Microsoft prohibits but allows BGH. In the end, Microsoft wants to prohibit the SB (or OEM) versions from being sold without hardware. So it's actually first of all a matter of who is the system builder and has to provide support for the system (that's Microsoft's rationale: you can't install on another computer because the system builder can no longer provide support) but I'm with my computer I am the system builder and have to give myself support, so I can install the SB version on MY upgraded computer because it is like this: as long as I don't change the case (which "has to" have the COA sticker on it) it is still in fact the same computer, the system builder who gives me support (ICH) can also replace a defective MB in a warranty case.
It will only be possible to port them to another system with the limited OEM recovery versions (which normally only large manufacturers such as Medion and the like add to their computers) because these manufacturers only have the drivers that are really needed on the recovery CD / DVD and no longer allowed (or should be allowed to) enclose with the device an unchanged standard SB version with its own imprint, as was previously the case.And finally ...
Build the computer yourself, buy and install the "normal" SB / DSP version, if Vista wants to reactivate it, it should do that.
This will not be done so often via the Internet, but what the phone is for.
Microsoft will probably not sue anyone who has "built" their own system and require a new license, but only a confirmation that the OS is only installed on one computer, as was previously the case with XP. -
Hi Magic Mike,
exactly, that's the same as what I mean .........
Something like that would have to be fetched: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit SB (DE) 1 pack Order in the online shop
and then you can do everything, make a new board, new HDD, etc ......
gruß
Daniel M.
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